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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Randy Bush (Oct 21)
systemd is insanity. one would have hoped that deb and others would
know better. sigh.

vmlinux.el here we come!

randy

Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies? Jared Mauch (Oct 21)
I’ve had operational issues introduced by *TLD operators and choices they made. I’m not going to document them here,
but by using the root zone as a dumping ground for vanity addresses (e.g.: .google) highlights something that can be
properly dealt with through normal processes.

The number of things which will change from a predictable result to a unpredictable result (similar to when someone
decided to wildcard .com) will continue to...

Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies? shawn wilson (Oct 21)
not be the most challenging problem of the 3 I mentioned, but I won't. :)

You're right. But, edu and gov might be a tie with some obsolete tech they
maintain that won't conform. But maybe not. As far as mil, I hold no
clearance and if I did, I couldn't discuss even their public infrastructure
(which AFAIK requires at least a public trust to work on). So I think
leading this discussion to just the issues with gov (and maybe...

Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies? Barry Shein (Oct 21)
Not that anyone is looking for a solution but I suppose one possible
solution would be to use the two-letter cctld then gov like
parliament.uk.gov or parliament.ca.gov etc.

No doubt there would be some collisions but probably not too serious.

Re: ISP Shaping Hardware Ankit Agrawal (Oct 21)
Hi Guys,

Not sure if this got posted before as I didn't see it come in my Inbox.

Have you heard of Saisei (www.saisei.com)?

They have a very good product that allows you to do this and much more in a virtualised environment.
The software solution allows for very small to very large scale deployments and has a RESTful API for easy integration
with your applications.
They are getting a lot of traction with some of the major players in the...

Re: ISP Shaping Hardware Carlos Alcantar (Oct 21)
The platforms I¹ve seen used for large scale dpi is procera I¹ve heard
rave reviews, but also comes with the price tag.

http://www.proceranetworks.com

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / carlos () race com / http://www.race.com
<http://www.race.com/>

Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies? Eric Brunner-Williams (Oct 21)
i won't comment on your experience, having no direct knowledge. why you
comment on mine is uninteresting.

-e

Re: ISP Shaping Hardware Aftab Siddiqui (Oct 21)
Hi

Cisco SCE8000 or even smaller boxes are pretty expensive and then require
couple of other hardware to run the middleware which manages the device.
Not a good idea. We bought it for the same purpose but its not scalable and
very bulky in management.

Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui

Re: ISP Shaping Hardware Rafael Possamai (Oct 21)
Hello,

I never used it. I always get a fresh install of FreeBSD and configure it
from scratch so that it doesn't have all of the overhead from pfSense...
Downside is that you have to configure it all by hand, but when all you
need is one or two features, I prefer to do that instead. I usually go with
pfSense for OpenVPN tunnels since it's just quicker with the GUI.

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Eduardo Schoedler <listas () esds...

Re: ISP Shaping Hardware Мурат Каипов (Oct 21)
Hello Guys.
What about DPI solutions? We use Cisco SCE8000 for traffic policing and
billing purposes. Also, as we in MNO market we use PCRF tools too.
Regards.
21 Окт 2014 г. 6:41 пользователь "Alex Nderitu" <nderitualex () gmail com>
написал:

Re: ISP Shaping Hardware Ankit Agrawal (Oct 21)
Hi Skeeve,

Have you heard of Saisei (www.saisei.com)?

They have a very good product that allows you to do this and much more in a virtualised environment.
The software solution allows for very small to very large scale deployments and has a RESTful API for easy integration
with your applications.
They are getting a lot of traction with some of the major players in the industry around the globe.

I can get you in touch with the right people if...

Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies? Doug Barton (Oct 21)
The plan I outlined was discussed about 2 years after Neustar took over
management, and TMK was never actually discussed with Neustar.

Yes, but the locality-based name space still exists. I used to hold some
names under it, but gave them up when I moved out of state. Meanwhile,
several states actively use their name space. But ...

... none of this is relevant to the proposal at hand. Neustar manages
the domain on behalf of the USG. There is...

Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies? Doug Barton (Oct 21)
|
| On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
| wrote:
|
|> Breaking tons of things is an interesting opinion of "why not”.
|
| Eh. Off the top of my head, I see two categories of breakage:
|
| 1) things that hard-code a list of “real” TLDs, and break when
| their expectations aren’t met, and
|
| 2) things that went ahead and trumped up their own non-canonical
| TLDs for their own purposes.
|
|...

Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies? Doug Barton (Oct 21)
Actually it worked really well for IPv6 in USG-space. It also mostly
worked for DNSSEC. Orgs that didn't make the deadline got spanked, and
remediated.

Of course DNSSEC in GOV has been a mixed bag, but to be fair, that's
true of all the early adopters.

No argument, which is why the long tail. A non-trivial amount of that
stuff will go away by attrition over a decade, and the rest will just
have to be moved carefully.

Actually I...

Re: ISP Shaping Hardware Eduardo Schoedler (Oct 21)
Em segunda-feira, 20 de outubro de 2014, Rafael Possamai <rafael () gav ufsc br>
escreveu:

What you think about BSDRP? It's another FreeBSD with ipfw and dummynet,
very ease to use for shaping.

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