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Re: Other flapping prefixes. Compare and contrast.
From: "Michael F. Nittmann" <mn () ios com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:41:30 -0400 (EDT)

Well, after all this, can we then get say to a point where we define like 
engineering guidelines. 
This exists in machine engineering and everywhere else. 

It would mean that certain types of access shouldbe designed in a certain 
manner, and also explain why and what the impacts are (see my earlier 
post, yes, everybody knows how to do this).

There are more points, not only this one: proxy agg, as path manipulation 

This way a provider has at least the chance to check if his design is 
'within the normal and customary'.

Since these things are no corporate secrets, how about giving it a corner 
on the merit web sites?

I still maintain that public complaint about something that is between 
providers, without (this is the point) constructive proposal of a 
solution, is public whining. Well, you all seem to accept and like this, 
we all have our views.


On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Dave Siegel wrote:

Can we stop this bashing right here, Sean? I don't believe that this list 
is the adequate forum four such childish behaviour. I have a collection 
of your past emails and I am rather fed up withthis. 

Can Sean be removed from the list? These are not contributions in any 
sense of constructivity at all.

I disagree.

When the traditional channels don't work, sometimes publicity is the only thing
to cause a company to pay attention.

Do not underestimate the value of peer pressure.  We all have to resort to it
at one point or another.

Furthermore, Sean has contributed many construtive posts to this list in the
onslaught of arguments.

Let's not call the kettle black.


Dave Siegel                   President, RTD Systems & Networking, Inc.
(520)318-0696                 Systems Consultant -- Unix, LANs, WANs, Cisco
dsiegel () rtd com                    User Tracking & Acctg -- "Written by an ISP, 
http://www.rtd.com/                                           for an ISP."

Michael F. Nittmann                                     mn () ios com
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