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NO silly Non-profit IP Registry please
From: "Matthew E. Pearson" <mpearson () games-online com>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 03:06:20 -0500
At 09:57 PM 1/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
The point has also been made that the management of the IP space should
be put in the hands of those that depend on it - the users. Whether
those users are ISPs, corporate entities, universities, etc., they
should all play a role.
To this end, Network Solutions, Inc. plans to create and initially fund
a non-profit 501(c)6 organization to be known as The American Registry
for Internet Numbers (ARIN) to manage the IP address space for the
territories it currently administers, similar to the APNIC and RIPE
regional IP registries. This organization will be a non-profit
spin-off of the current InterNIC IP group.
Ok... now how does this put control of IP space in the hands of users? NSI
is just another bunch of suits and engineers... NOT end users......
interesting concept here.. I completly fail to see the logic.
I DO however agree with the non-profit seperate entitly idea... I would
hate to wake up and read the news to find that Network Solutions Inc. was
bought up by some Telco or ISP who now has complete control over address
Network Solutions, Inc. will initially fund ARIN until fees are imposed
and will offer continued financing until such time as it is a stable,
self-sufficient entity capable of funding itself through its membership
dues, registration and maintenance fees.
Now here is a plan.... but I see a few flaws...
Firstly, does this mean that we can simply throw $100k at Internet and buy
op several "B" blocks (or CIDR) even though we only need a class C?? Or
does it mean we pay HUGE ammounts of money to STILL deal with the fascist
IP space assignment policy that InterNIc has currently? (ie you have to
give a persons name, address, and home phone to just if every host on your
Either way... this is TOTALLY unaccpetable and if IANA allow it.. IANA
should be disbanded as well...
So here are the ways this could work....
1. You can simply buy up unused address space by lobbing cash at these
guys, meaning some ISP will lob a few million at it, but EVERY available
address and resell it at even HIGHER rates than these folks...
2. You pay LARGE ammounts of money for the continuation of the great
service we all know and love. Meaning you have to justify practically down
to the end user to get address space assigned in any reasonable size block.
3. You pay LARGE ammounts of money and have these folks lighten up the
rules on assigning addresses and LOTS of address space is wasted because
larger than nescessary blocks are assigned simply because the user had the
cash for a larger block... (ex: a /16 instead of a /18 because they had a
few extra grand and the restrictions have been lightened up a bit)
This is a LOSE LOSE LOSE situation....
I am not saying I have the solution.... but I do know that this seems
Remember what happened with the promises from the NIC that once they
charged for domain name registrations, they could 1/2 the registration
time, and add real customer service... still 4 weeks... still 30 min on
hold and when you get someone they cant help you unless they get a
supervisor to call you back in 5 days...
Given the choice of evils... I would prefer to continue with the current
plan.... at least NOBODY is getting ripped off for money and getting a lack
of service.... and the ip assignment restrictions are tight... but that is
needed until we somehow impliment IPv6 addressing (now who is administering
that one!)on the net.
Matthew E. Pearson
Vice President of Development
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