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Re: Nameserver madness
From: Karl Denninger <karl () Mcs Net>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:25:17 -0500 (CDT)


Ok folks, this has gone way too far.

First and foremost, let me clear a few points up.

1)      I never supported Eugene's antics or his piracy (nor cache
        poisoning) which he engaged in.

2)      We updated our BIND versions on ALL our nameservers, including the
        two listed below, within a few hours of his games beginning, so that
        we would NOT distribute or load bad data.

3)      We *DO* run a completely separate faction of enhanced DNS, known as
        eDNS.  This has NOTHING to do with Mr. Kaspuereff or his antics.  

4)      Our nameservers were not "polluted", nor will they be in the future.
        We are running BIND 8.1.1 which prevents this from happening.

5)      We do not, never did, and won't support the kinds of games which
        Eugene pulled.  I disagree *vehemently* with the IAHC and iPOC, and
        believe their process is both improper and possibly illegal.
        Nonetheless, that you believe someone is breaking the law and
        all boundaries of ethics does *NOT* entitle you to go and do the
        same in "retaliation".  Two wrongs do NOT make a right.

6)      Your blocking of the IP addresses is *NOT* effective.  Eugene's
        stunt was not quite as simple as you might think; he was
        deliberately hitting nameservers with recursive requests to force
        them to load his data.  You would have to isolate yourself ENTIRELY
        to be completely free of the problem through your method.  The
        PROPER fix is to load the newer BIND code which doesn't suffer from
        the weakness which was being exploited.

MCSNet will take immediate and strong retaliatory action against *ANY*
ISP which blockades our network in this fashion.  It is one thing to
block packets from our network for something which we have in fact done.
It is quite another to do so based on "guilt by association" and flat-out
untruths.

It is my hope that you will reconsider this insanity, and drop the filters
in 192.160.127.x.  We are *NOT* your enemies, but we can become them if you
insist on it.

A prompt response is appreciated and expected.

Sincerely,

--
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Following is the text of a message on the NANOG list , from Ray Davis
[ray () carpe net]

Why not just block all his garbage NSes and the fantasy NSes he's pointing
to?  A quick scan of 'dig 
@nyc.alternic.net . axfr' reveals the entries I've enclosed at the bottom. 
The unique IPs in this list are below and we've blocked them all at our
border so none of out NSes can get polluted by them.  Why not do the same?
Cheers,
Ray
===== Unique set of IPs from the alternic fantasy tld list ====
151.189.0.25
192.160.127.125
192.160.127.90
193.0.0.193
194.106.36.1
194.72.236.3
194.97.200.20
198.199.168.92
198.80.71.68
198.80.71.70
199.166.24.1
199.181.164.1
199.181.164.2
202.185.231.4
202.185.254.12
204.182.105.150
204.199.0.2
204.199.0.3
204.80.125.130
204.80.125.145
204.94.42.1
204.94.42.2
204.94.42.5
204.94.43.1
205.184.14.8
205.206.189.3
205.215.60.5
205.215.60.6
206.117.26.219
206.117.26.220
206.25.132.30
206.71.77.2
206.71.77.4
207.107.232.3
207.174.25.15
207.180.91.9
207.32.128.1
207.32.128.131
207.51.48.15
207.51.48.5
207.51.48.8
208.1.127.6
208.133.32.70
208.139.0.16
208.139.0.26
208.195.108.10
208.195.108.9
====

===== Output from 'dig @nyc.alternic.net . axfr' with valid TLDs edited out
==
      86400   SOA     MX.ALTERNIC.NET. ROOT.MX.ALTERNIC.NET. (
                      1997072123      ; serial
                      10800   ; refresh (3 hours)
                      900     ; retry (15 mins)
                      604800  ; expire (7 days)
                      86400 ) ; minimum (1 day)
      518400  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
      518400  NS      IPERDOME.PER.
IPERDOME.PER.  604800  A       208.133.32.70
      518400  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
      518400  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
A.     172000  NS      NS3.TRIVALLEY.COM.
I.     172000  NS      NS3.TRIVALLEY.COM.
NS3.TRIVALLEY.COM                       206.25.132.30
DIR.   172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
DIR.   172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
INC.   172000  NS      NS1.GLOBECOMM.NET.
NS1.GLOBECOMM.NET.     172000  A       207.51.48.5
INC.   172000  NS      NS2.GLOBECOMM.NET.
NS2.GLOBECOMM.NET.     172000  A       207.51.48.8
PORNO. 518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
PORNO. 518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
PORNO. 518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
PORNO. 518000  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
PORNO. 518000  NS      IPERDOME.PER.
IPERDOME.PER.  604800  A       208.133.32.70
PORNO. 518000  NS      NS1.BELFAIR.NET.
NS1.BELFAIR.NET.       86400   A       204.94.43.1
PORNO. 518000  NS      CLUBLOVE.XXX.
CLUBLOVE.XXX.  386400  A       208.139.0.16
PORNO. 518000  NS      PENTHOUSELIVE.XXX.
PENTHOUSELIVE.XXX.     186400  A       208.139.0.26
USVI.  172000  NS      NS1.USVI.NET.
NS1.USVI.NET.  172000  A       204.199.0.2
USVI.  172000  NS      NS2.USVI.NET.
NS2.USVI.NET.  172000  A       204.199.0.3
TLD.   172000  NS      DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       198.199.168.92
TLD.   172000  NS      NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    15228   A       207.180.91.9
TLD.   172000  NS      NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.9
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.10
FILM.  172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
FILM.  172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
DOT.   172000  NS      LONEPEAK.VII.COM.
LONEPEAK.VII.COM.      172000  A       206.71.77.2
DOT.   172000  NS      OLYMPUS.VII.COM.
OLYMPUS.VII.COM.       172000  A       206.71.77.4
GMBH.  86400   NS      ns.germany.net.
ns.germany.net.        172000  A       151.189.0.25
GMBH.  86400   NS      ns.seicom.net.
ns.seicom.net. 172000  A       194.97.200.20
NUM.   172000  NS      NS1.NUM.NET.
NS1.NUM.NET.   172000  A       205.215.60.5
NUM.   172000  NS      NS2.NUM.NET.
NS2.NUM.NET.   172000  A       205.215.60.6
888.   172000  NS      NS1.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET.   172000  A       199.166.24.1
XXX.   518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
XXX.   518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
XXX.   518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
XXX.   518000  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
FAM.   172000  NS      RS1.LANMINDS.COM.
RS1.LANMINDS.COM.      172000  A       208.1.127.6
FAM.   172000  NS      RS2.LANMINDS.NET.
RS2.LANMINDS.NET.      172000  A       207.174.25.15
PER.   604800  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
PER.   604800  NS      IPERDOME.PER.
IPERDOME.PER.  604800  A       208.133.32.70
PER.   604800  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
FAQ.   172000  NS      NS1.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET.   172000  A       199.166.24.1
GLOBE. 172000  NS      NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.   172000  A       206.117.26.220
GLOBE. 172000  NS      NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.  172000  A       206.117.26.219
GAMES. 172000  NS      NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.   172000  A       206.117.26.220
GAMES. 172000  NS      NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.  172000  A       206.117.26.219
MALL.  172000  NS      NS.UNETY.NET.
NS.UNETY.NET.  172000  A       207.32.128.1
MALL.  172000  NS      NS.UNETY.COM.
NS.UNETY.COM.  172000  A       207.32.128.131
RADIO. 172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
RADIO. 172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
TRAVEL.        518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
TRAVEL.        518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
TRAVEL.        518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
JPN.   518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
JPN.   518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
JPN.   518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
ZOO.   172000  NS      NS1.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET.   172000  A       199.166.24.1
ENT.   172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
ENT.   172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
ENT.   172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.ALTERNIC.NET.
ASIA.  172000  NS      NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.   172000  A       206.117.26.220
ASIA.  172000  NS      NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.  172000  A       206.117.26.219
NS.RIPE.NET.   172800  A       193.0.0.193
LAW.   172000  NS      NS1.GLOBECOMM.NET.
NS1.GLOBECOMM.NET.     172000  A       207.51.48.5
LAW.   172000  NS      NS2.GLOBECOMM.NET.
NS2.GLOBECOMM.NET.     172000  A       207.51.48.8
VID.   172000  NS      DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       198.199.168.92
VID.   172000  NS      NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    15228   A       207.180.91.9
VID.   172000  NS      NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.9
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.10
GAY.   172000  NS      ANAESTHESIA.COGNOSCENTI.ORG.
ANAESTHESIA.COGNOSCENTI.ORG.   172000  A       198.80.71.70
GAY.   172000  NS      SYNAESTHESIA.COGNOSCENTI.ORG.
SYNAESTHESIA.COGNOSCENTI.ORG.  172000  A       198.80.71.68
GAY.   172000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
GAY.   172000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
HELP.  172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
HELP.  172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
FUND.  172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
FUND.  172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
URL.   172000  NS      DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       198.199.168.92
URL.   172000  NS      NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    15228   A       207.180.91.9
URL.   172000  NS      NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.9
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.10
HIGGS. 172000  NS      NS1.HIGGS.NET.
NS1.HIGGS.NET. 172000  A       204.80.125.130
HIGGS. 172000  NS      NS2.HIGGS.NET.
NS2.HIGGS.NET. 172000  A       204.80.125.145
ARTS.  172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
ARTS.  172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
LIVE.  518000  NS      iperdome.per.
iperdome.per.  604800  A       208.133.32.70
LIVE.  518000  NS      ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us.    15228   A       207.180.91.9
GEO.   172000  NS      DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       198.199.168.92
GEO.   172000  NS      NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    15228   A       207.180.91.9
GEO.   172000  NS      NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.9
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.10
EUR.   172000  NS      NS1.WEBSERVICES.NET.
NS1.WEBSERVICES.NET.   172000  A       194.106.36.1
NS1.WEBSERVICES.NET.   172000  A       194.72.236.3
EUR.   172000  NS      NS2.WEBSERVICES.NET.
NS2.WEBSERVICES.NET.   172800  A       194.72.236.3
GER.   86400   NS      ns.germany.net.
ns.germany.net.        172000  A       151.189.0.25
GER.   86400   NS      ns.seicom.net.
ns.seicom.net. 172000  A       194.97.200.20
KSA.   172000  NS      NS1.ALASKAONE.COM.
NS1.ALASKAONE.COM.     172000  A       205.184.14.8
KSA.   172000  NS      NS2.ALASKAONE.COM.
NS2.ALASKAONE.COM.     172000  A       205.184.14.8
EXP.   518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
EXP.   518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
EXP.   518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
EXP.   518000  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
LLB.   172000  NS      NS1.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET.   172000  A       199.166.24.1
KIDS.  172000  NS      NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.   172000  A       206.117.26.220
KIDS.  172000  NS      NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.  172000  A       206.117.26.219
HAM.   172000  NS      DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       198.199.168.92
HAM.   172000  NS      NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.9
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.10
KTI.   172000  NS      DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       198.199.168.92
KTI.   172000  NS      NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    15228   A       207.180.91.9
KTI.   172000  NS      NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.9
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.10
BANK.  172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
BANK.  172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
MED.   518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
MED.   518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
MED.   518000  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
MED.   518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
PORN.  172000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
PORN.  172000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
PORN.  172000  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
PORN.  172000  NS      NS1.BELFAIR.NET.
NS1.BELFAIR.NET.       86400   A       204.94.43.1
PORN.  172000  NS      IPERDOME.PER.
IPERDOME.PER.  604800  A       208.133.32.70
PORN.  172000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
FREE.  172000  NS      NS.ALPHAQUE.COM.
NS.ALPHAQUE.COM.       172000  A       202.185.254.12
FREE.  172000  NS      NS2.ALPHAQUE.COM.
NS2.ALPHAQUE.COM.      172000  A       202.185.231.4
BIZ.   172000  NS      CEREBUS.MCS.COM.
CEREBUS.MCS.COM.       172000  A       192.160.127.125
BIZ.   172000  NS      KITTEN.MCS.COM.
KITTEN.MCS.COM.        172000  A       192.160.127.90
ART.   172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
ART.   172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
LNX.   518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
LNX.   518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
LNX.   518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
LNX.   518000  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
ZONE.  172000  NS      NS1.USVI.NET.
NS1.USVI.NET.  172000  A       204.199.0.2
ZONE.  172000  NS      NS2.USVI.NET.
NS2.USVI.NET.  172000  A       204.199.0.3
SEA.   172000  NS      DNS1.SEANET.COM.
DNS1.SEANET.COM.       172000  A       199.181.164.1
SEA.   172000  NS      DNS2.SEANET.COM.
DNS2.SEANET.COM.       172000  A       199.181.164.2
LTD.   518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
LTD.   518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
LTD.   518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
LTD.   518000  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
NETZ.  86400   NS      ns.germany.net.
ns.germany.net.        172000  A       151.189.0.25
NETZ.  86400   NS      ns.seicom.net.
ns.seicom.net. 172000  A       194.97.200.20
TOUR.  172000  NS      NS1.USVI.NET.
NS1.USVI.NET.  172000  A       204.199.0.2
TOUR.  172000  NS      NS2.USVI.NET.
NS2.USVI.NET.  172000  A       204.199.0.3
CHIRO. 518000  NS      iperdome.per.
iperdome.per.  604800  A       208.133.32.70
CHIRO. 518000  NS      ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us.    15228   A       207.180.91.9
SEX.   172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
SEX.   172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
SEX.   172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.ALTERNIC.NET.
CITY.  172000  NS      DNS1.SEANET.COM.
DNS1.SEANET.COM.       172000  A       199.181.164.1
CITY.  172000  NS      DNS2.SEANET.COM.
DNS2.SEANET.COM.       172000  A       199.181.164.2
NEWS.  172000  NS      NS1.HIGGS.NET.
NS1.HIGGS.NET. 172000  A       204.80.125.130
NEWS.  172000  NS      NS2.HIGGS.NET.
NS2.HIGGS.NET. 172000  A       204.80.125.145
NIC.   518000  NS      MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
MX.ALTERNIC.NET.       86400   A       204.94.42.1
NIC.   518000  NS      NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.      86400   A       207.51.48.15
NIC.   518000  NS      ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.  86400   A       204.94.42.2
NIC.   518000  NS      EEK.HTTPD.COM.
EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400   A       204.182.105.150
NIC.   518000  NS      ALTER.NIC.
ALTER.NIC.     86400   A       204.94.42.5
ALTER.NIC.     86400   A       204.94.42.1
NIC.   518000  NS      ALTERNIC.NIC.
ALTERNIC.NIC.  86400   A       204.94.42.1
NIC.   518000  NS      WWW.ALTER.NIC.
WWW.ALTER.NIC. 86400   A       204.94.42.1
NIC.   518000  NS      WWW.ALTERNIC.NET.
WWW.ALTERNIC.NET.      186400  A       204.94.42.1
WWW.ALTERNIC.NET.      186400  A       207.51.48.15
NIC.   518000  NS      IPERDOME.PER.
IPERDOME.PER.  604800  A       208.133.32.70
NIC.   518000  NS      WWW.PER.
WWW.PER.       604800  A       208.133.32.70
NIC.   518000  NS      MAIL.PER.
MAIL.PER.      604800  A       208.133.32.70
CORP.  172000  NS      CEREBUS.MCS.COM.
CEREBUS.MCS.COM.       172000  A       192.160.127.125
CORP.  172000  NS      KITTEN.MCS.COM.
KITTEN.MCS.COM.        172000  A       192.160.127.90
GALLERY.       172000  NS      NS1.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET.   172000  A       199.166.24.1
DDS.   172000  NS      NS1.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET.   172000  A       199.166.24.1
SKY.   172000  NS      FASTLANE.CA.
FASTLANE.CA.   172000  A       205.206.189.3
SKY.   172000  NS      SKYSCAPE.NET.
SKYSCAPE.NET.  172000  A       207.107.232.3
PRICES.        172000  NS      NS1.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET.   172000  A       199.166.24.1
EMAIL. 172000  NS      NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.   172000  A       206.117.26.220
EMAIL. 172000  NS      NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.  172000  A       206.117.26.219
800.   172000  NS      NS1.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET.   172000  A       199.166.24.1
VIDEO. 172000  NS      DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       198.199.168.92
VIDEO. 172000  NS      NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.9
NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.    172000  A       208.195.108.10
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Karl Denninger <karl () MCS COM> wrote in article
<5r39c8$75b$1 () Jupiter Mcs Net>...
In article <01bc96e4$c6ca5530$0101a8c0 () superduper>,
David Schutt <david () DELETETHIS speco com> wrote:
What in the world is going on with the nameservers? People are blocking
addresses that are or were associated with Alternic, and that includes
Cerebus and Kitten. Is this going to cause us MCS users problems?
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Who's blocking cerebus and kitten?

I've seen no evidence of this.  We had nothing to do with the Alternic on
those machines, and Eugene's root has been off for months.

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