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Re: Network Operators and smurf
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () scfn thpl lib fl us>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:53:02 -0400

On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 05:51:06PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
At 5:03 PM -0400 4/24/98, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
The problem is us.  This isn't a research network run and maintained by
the knowledgable.  This is a business.  We're selling a product, and if we
expect it to operate as advertised, it's up to us to educate those we sell
it to.

The problem isn't us.  It's cicso, and Bay, and Ascend, and... everyone
who won't put an anti-forging filter on their border routers so we
_can_ turn it on.  The first time someone co-sues cisco, it'll get
fixed with 30 days.

They put the software in. "We" just won't turn them on.  We have seen the
enemy and they is us.

Off-line survey: if you operate a border router or dialup access server
(Livingston, Ascend, USR TC, etc), please mail me directly and tell me
1) whether your device has a know to llow you to drop incoming packets
with forged source addreses, 2) what it defaults to, and 3) how well
it's called out in the documentation.  Please include specific model
numbers, and software release numbers if possible.

Do _not_ reply to the list; I'll summarize.

It's been my understanding that the knobs are in fact _not_ there,
Dean, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

-- jra
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