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Re: AS8584 taking over the internet
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank () ibm net il>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:31:31 +0200

At 08:36 AM 4/9/98 +0100, philip bridge wrote:

That is of course laudible. But the point has to be made that AS8584 is in
Israel. In an environment when a small ISP in a small country can cause a
lot of damage to the global Internet, a way has to be found to efficiently
propogate this knowledge far and wide.

Long before everyone woke up and found this I was on the phone with them -
discovering that they were doing some nasty redistributes and didn't quite
understand.  There are thousands of ISPs in the world - some even more
clueless  than Barak.  If you are an upstream ISP and talk BGP to someone
downstream and don't filter - then you are to blame.  AS4000 (among others)-
which is Barak's upstream should have known better.



At 02:10 PM 4/8/98 -0600, Cengiz Alaettinoglu wrote:

philip bridge on Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:08:03 +0100 said:
It seems that the current state of the IRR and the supporting tools are
in general simply too complex for a lot of people to get to grips with
... which includes me - we build ours manually :-(  

To familarize with the IRR and the supporting tools, Sunday before next
two nanogs, there will be a IRR/RPSL/RAToolSet tutorials. We will send an
official announcement very soon about it.


Philip Bridge  
++41 31 688 8262       bridge () ip-plus net     www.ip-plus.ch
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