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Re: Reporting Little Blue Men
From: Phil Howard <phil () charon milepost com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:59:55 -0600 (CST)
Dave Siegel writes...
Every time a UCE is delivered to my server, someone out there has stolen
resources from me. Resources *are* money.
Everytime a network is smurfed, network resources have been stolen.
And just because you have not secured against it doesn't mean it is any
less of a theft. Case law already exists that holds that a theft is
still a theft even if the house was unlocked. The ordinary person would
not assume it to be right to take something just because it happens to be
easy to do so. Spam is probably more equivalent to shoplifting than it
is to burglary; just as illegal.
Relays aren't the only problem. The problem is that SPAM is an
acceptable form of advertising in the eyes of the US Government (and others).
Much of the spam we receive comes from hotmail, msn, ATT worldnet dialups, etc.
It's not sent through a relay, but sent through the original dynamically
assigned IP. Spam software gets smarter all the time.
And all of it through the SMTP server for that dialup? Wow! It must be
horrendously clogged up.
As it's been pointed out several times, including the last NANOG, there are
no technical means available to eliminate SPAM, only reduce it.
A vision hit me of that little game with the heads popping up at random and
the kid with the big plastic hammer pounding them back down.
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phil | eat14me3 () anyplace com stop3it4 () anyplace net stop9034 () dumbads3 com
at | stop3270 () spammer1 com eat85me0 () dumbads1 net ads1suck () dumbads4 edu
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dot | no4spam4 () noplace4 edu w3x8y7z2 () s2p5a6m6 edu stop8157 () anyplace edu
com | stop4ads () no01ads9 com eat4this () no4where org no32ads6 () lame1ads net
Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Dave Stoddard (Jan 21)
Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Henry Linneweh (Jan 22)
Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Steve Sobol (Jan 23)
Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Craig A. Huegen (Jan 21)
RE: Reporting Little Blue Men Dave Van Allen (Jan 21)
Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Dennis Simpson (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men, (continued)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Phil Howard (Jan 21)