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Re: Microsoft offering xDSL access
From: Geoff White <geoffw () precipice v-site net>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:02:14 -0800 (PST)

On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, ^Faust^ wrote:

Geoff White wrote:

Well my understanding here in PacBell/SBC land is that the way it will
work, (this comes from someone who made a naieve inquiry to another
equally naieve saleperson at PacBell/SBC), is that you need to connect to
PacBell's ATM backbone in order to order xDSL (the person just wanted to
connect from their home to the office), when I heard this I though it was
totally absurd but the truth, as they say is far stranger :)

Why is this absurd? You think coolocating routers at COs is less absurd?
Aggregating DSL traffic in a DSLAM and pumping it out via ATM is the
right way to do things.

No it was absurd because my friend just wanted to run two adsl "modems"
between his office and home on copper. He was told that to do that he
needed to connect to PacBell's ATM backbone, that's whats absurd.
(If I totally misunderstood and you are saying that using *ATM* is absurd, then

see above
don't bother to reply. I'm an atheist.)

What the salesguy was saying but (he really didn't know it) and what I
found out from a little digging is that PacBell's intent is to only sell
xDSl to CLECs ! So then it all makes sense, you need a router that
connects to their ATM cloud, then they just route the traffic from their
copper on over to your routers and presto! You are an xDSL enabled ISP!

This is crap. Covad, Brainstorm, DNAI, etc. are CLECs?! I don't think so. Yet
they seem to be able to offer xDSL using P*B.

not yet, but I bet in two years time they wiil be (or will be going out of

When we started InterNex P*B didn't offer ISDN either, now try to make
money on that type of connectivity in the Bay Area.

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