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Incident response (was Re: whois ) (fwd)
From: multics () ruserved com
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:21:18 -0400 (EDT)

If I'm researching an intrusion incident the things that are important
to me are:

1)  The organization I'm contacting can at least confirm that they have
records that are useful in tracking down the hacker.

2)  There is someone there who can look at their records since if I'm
tracking down a hacker, it has often been a case that the source I've
tracked things to has also been hacked.

3)  The organization contacted takes the incident serious and will at
least make sure they preserve any evidence/logs/records/etc that may be
of use in further tracking of the culprit.

4)  I can get enough information, even if its a yes or no, to determine
if its worth filing a police report.

Forwarded message:

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:

:Umm... would you be satisfied with a "We've referred it to the appropriate
:people" response?
:At least here, and probably many other universities, we're stuck not being
:able to say much more than that due to student confidentiality rules...
:Yes, we take action.  No, we usually can't say what we did.

A general incident response capability would be usefull, but unfortunately
this requires more cooperation than most companies are willing to give. 

Would it be worthwhile to include security incident handling policies
and procedures in peering agreements? i.e a peering agreement also 
includes a testable disaster recovery plan, and a security incident
response plan. 

It is fairly obvious by now that a peering agreement is more than simply 
an agreement on a router configuration. 

I'm wondering if anyone would consider something like this a little more
robust than the centralized CIRTs and industry associations, as it would
be relative to local policy, and the participants have a direct existing
relationship with each other. This, as opposed to dependance on a neutral
co-ordinating centre which may be dealing with other problems. 

Reluctant Ninja
Defective Technologies

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