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Re: black hat .cn networks
From: "neil d. quiogue" <quioguen () hk psi net>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:29:09 +0800

Well there may be a myriad of reasons on why the admins of those ISPs do not
1. abuse/postmaster goes to some mailbox no one reads like root which
contains a bunch of other messages.
2. Language issue has been mentioned and it's a valid one.  I don't think
many admins are aware of those translators.
3. They don't know how to handle such cases.
4. They don't care?

I don't think the encoding matters much since one is sending from a
non-Big5/SJIS encoding to Big5/SJIS encoding and those that support
Big5/SJIS support the other encodings.  The other way around might be a
problem though.

But the nonresponse is a valid concern.  I wonder if I'll be censored soon.


Neil D. Quiogue
PSINet Hong Kong Ltd.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Hollis" <goemon () anime net>
To: "Wing Wong" <dualwing () pacbell net>
Cc: <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 4:50 PM
Subject: RE: black hat .cn networks

On Tue, 8 May 2001, Wing Wong wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Dan Hollis wrote:
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Paul Lantinga wrote:
Justin, et al, do you have any *proof* that these attacks are coming
Chinese attackers on Chinese machines?
We may never know since mainland china admins never respond to abuse
Ever consider the possibility that the admins in question don't
English? It'd be like if someone sends you a Big5 or SJIS encoded
complaining about spam or cracks and all you see is binary jiberish on
your screen.
Even romanized communications would be difficult to understand.

I can use babelfish, why can't they?

Yes, babelfish is less than perfect, but I can usually grok the gist of an

And if babelfish isnt good enough, there's others.

FWIW I've had a chinese friend in canada send a BIG5 email once and the
same -- no response.


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