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Re: People who purchase unproven technologies to support their Business, and whine about it. RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
From: "Hunter Pine" <hunter () compuhelp com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 07:46:32 -0400
You are aware that a good percentage of the T1's you purchase nowadays are
just a pair of bonded 768 dsl lines, right? The phone companies have been
doing that for over 20 years to save on copper.
Vice President, Network Operations
hunter () compuhelp com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Marr" <jmarr () twmaine com>
To: "'John Palmer (NANOG Acct)'" <nanog () adns net>
Cc: <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 9:31 PM
Subject: People who purchase unproven technologies to support their
Business, and whine about it. RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE
OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
Why would anyone purchase dsl to run their business on. Let me guess, the
price was right.
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 9:03 PM
To: John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
Welp, you are the one who picked xDSL for your business...
On Sun, 13 May 2001, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:
It has been a trying time at CAIS in the last few days, I'm sure.
PSINet dumped all of their DSL customers onto CAIS. Covad is the
provider for them both. Need I say more?
Bottom line, I dont know how many thousands of people were without
for more than a day because the whole transfer was botched.
We have a situation where we had a DSL connection from PSI and were
our own IP addresses. Problem is that no one changed the
routing tables and the packets dead-ended at PSI.
Getting CAIS to fix this problem has been a nightmare. At first, PSI
stop announcing the routes and now that they have, it seems that
CAIS will not announce the routes till Monday becuase "no one at our NOC
knows how to do this and the one guy (ONE GUY IN THE WHOLE
COMPANY - AND THEY ARE A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER????) who knows how doesn't
Bottom line from CAIS:" S***W the customers, we dont work weekends. We
care that your entire business has been dead in the water since
Wednesday, you can go to H**L, we'll get to it Monday, if we feel like
Our lawyers are looking at what actions we can take against them. It may
trickey, but we will try.
Needless to say, we will be moving our connection. I have some choice
for them when they send us our first monthly bill, which I'm certain,
will do on weekends just fine.
IF SOMEONE IS THERE AT CAIS - GET OFF OF YOUR LAZY A** AND PUT THOSE
ANNOUNCEMENTS INTO YOUR BGP4
TABLES TODAY (NOT MONDAY, NOT LATER IN THE WEEK)- THERE ARE ABOUT 6 OF
CUSTOMERS (NOT JUST US)
WHO ARE DEAD IN THE WATER BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO DO A 20 SECOND
<flame off - sorry to the list for being so loud>