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From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:41:38 -0700

Look in the O'Reilly "DNS and BIND" book, 3rd ed., page 217. Also, RFC2317.

However, I have not yet found a single upstream that even knows how to do
it, let alone offers this as a service. They are also not happy that I won't
sign control of my domains over to them and that I run my own zone servers.
Gee, why don't I hand over my bank accounts while I'm at it?

BTW, if you know an ISP that does, I want their contact number. I'm not
trying to win any arguments here. If I lose then I win, because I will have
found a decent vendor. Also, with my monthly recurring cash on the line,
don't you think I've been looking? Also, SpeakEasy seems to not have heard
about SWiP.

-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:curtis () lamere net]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 8:48 AM

I don't remember being able to delegate anything less than a /24 for
reverse purposes.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  You can't swip 
less than a
/24, but you can assign it.

On Mon, 14 May 2001, John Murphy wrote:

Roeland Meyer, "None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27 
anymore, even
when they're ILECs.  Anything less than a /24 can't be SWIP'd..."

I really couldn't care less about SpeakEasy.  I just didn't 
feel like
watching yet another of your blatantly inaccurate blanket 
statements slide
by.  Case in point, *both* of those statements above are inaccurate.

-----------------------Original Message-----------------------
From:  Roeland Meyer
To:  John Murphy;nanog () nanog org
Date:  5/14/01  5:06 AM
Subject:  RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF 

From: John Murphy [mailto:nanog () mail murfnet com]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 8:07 PM

I'm sorry Roeland, but your statement about SWIP'ing anything
less than a
/24 is just inaccurate.  We SWIP /29s and /30s daily, for
both our Frame
and our DSL customers.

Tell it to SpeakEasy.

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