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Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
From: "Hunter Pine" <hunter () compuhelp com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:43:38 -0400


Larger - ARIN refers to netblocks by subnet mask bit length. So a /30 is
larger than a /29.

It took me a while to figure this out myself while reading their docs. I
guess whenever referring to ARIN, I use the backwards method when comparing
netblocks to keep myself at least partially sane. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <rekoil () semihuman com>
To: "Hunter Pine" <hunter () compuhelp com>
Cc: "John Murphy" <nanog () mail murfnet com>; "Roeland Meyer"
<rmeyer () mhsc com>; <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS


s/larger/smaller, you mean?

I actually haven't SWIPped a /30 myself - I was referring to John Murphy's
statement implying that he has successfully. I have SWIPped /29's,
however.

-C

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:36:11PM -0400, Hunter Pine wrote:
ARIN returns my /30's and says I can't do netblocks larger than /29 so I
stopped doing /30's. Are you paying them something on the side or just
not
reading all the replies from them? :)

Hunter Pine
Vice President, Network Operations
hunter () compuhelp com
CompuHelp Technologies
11 Lispenard Street
New York, NY 10013
212-995-2955 x21
http://www.compuhelp.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <rekoil () semihuman com>
To: "John Murphy" <nanog () mail murfnet com>
Cc: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>; <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS



Yes, ARIN won't _prevent_ you from SWIPping /29s and /30s, but ARIN
_requires_
you to SWIP any suballocation larger than a /28, and won't issue
additional blocks to you if your current blocks aren't properly
SWIPped.

-C

On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:07:26PM -0500, John Murphy wrote:

I'm sorry Roeland, but your statement about SWIP'ing anything less
than
a
/24 is just inaccurate.  We SWIP /29s and /30s daily, for both our
Frame
and our DSL customers.




-----------------------Original Message-----------------------
From:  Roeland Meyer
To:  nanog () nanog org
Date:  5/13/01  4:21 PM
Subject:  RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR
CUSTOMERS


I've had similar problem at SpeakEasy. They still don't have a
reverse-DNS
clue.

http://www.mhsc.com/recovery.htm

None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27 anymore, even when
they're
ILECs. Anything less than a /24 can't be SWIP'd and if you don't
control
your in-addr.arpa entries you don't control your domain and have no
security.



From: John Palmer (NANOG Acct) [mailto:nanog () adns net]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 1:40 PM

<FLAME ON>

PSINet dumped all of their DSL customers onto CAIS. Covad is
the backhaul
provider for them both. Need I say more?

Bottom line, I dont know how many thousands of people were
without service
for more than a day because the whole transfer was botched.

We have a situation where we had a DSL connection from PSI
and were using
our own  IP addresses. Problem is that no one changed the
routing tables and the packets dead-ended at PSI.

Getting CAIS to fix this problem has been a nightmare. At
first, PSI didnt
stop announcing the routes and now that they have, it seems that
CAIS will not announce the routes till Monday becuase "no one
at our NOC
knows how to do this and the one guy (ONE GUY IN THE WHOLE
COMPANY - AND THEY ARE A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER????) who knows
how doesn't work
weekends."

<flame off - sorry to the list for being so loud>





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