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Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
From: "Hunter Pine" <hunter () compuhelp com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:37:51 -0400


As I recall, ARIN doesn't let you change DNS authority information in blocks
larger than /24. They send the SWiP template back to you. The only way to
really give reverse authority for those is to use cname records in the
authoritve server's zone and point them to another in-addr zone for the /26
or /27 or whatever, then pull that smaller zone from the end-user's name
server.

My company knows how to do it, it's just that DSL customers don't give us
enough money to spend the time doing it. Typing out 32 cname records,
setting up a new zone, and then dealing with the end user when they can't
figure out how to set up a master record that allows us to pull the zones is
just way too time consuming for the limited profit margin of a DSL line.

Hunter Pine
Vice President, Network Operations
hunter () compuhelp com
CompuHelp Technologies
11 Lispenard Street
New York, NY 10013
212-995-2955 x21
http://www.compuhelp.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>
To: "'Curtis Maurand'" <curtis () lamere net>; "John Murphy"
<nanog () mail murfnet com>
Cc: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>; <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS



Look in the O'Reilly "DNS and BIND" book, 3rd ed., page 217. Also,
RFC2317.

However, I have not yet found a single upstream that even knows how to do
it, let alone offers this as a service. They are also not happy that I
won't
sign control of my domains over to them and that I run my own zone
servers.
Gee, why don't I hand over my bank accounts while I'm at it?

BTW, if you know an ISP that does, I want their contact number. I'm not
trying to win any arguments here. If I lose then I win, because I will
have
found a decent vendor. Also, with my monthly recurring cash on the line,
don't you think I've been looking? Also, SpeakEasy seems to not have heard
about SWiP.

-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:curtis () lamere net]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 8:48 AM

I don't remember being able to delegate anything less than a /24 for
reverse purposes.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  You can't swip
less than a
/24, but you can assign it.

On Mon, 14 May 2001, John Murphy wrote:

<quote>
Roeland Meyer, "None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27
anymore, even
when they're ILECs.  Anything less than a /24 can't be SWIP'd..."
</quote>

I really couldn't care less about SpeakEasy.  I just didn't
feel like
watching yet another of your blatantly inaccurate blanket
statements slide
by.  Case in point, *both* of those statements above are inaccurate.

-----------------------Original Message-----------------------
From:  Roeland Meyer
To:  John Murphy;nanog () nanog org
Date:  5/14/01  5:06 AM
Subject:  RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF
YOUR CUSTOMERS

From: John Murphy [mailto:nanog () mail murfnet com]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 8:07 PM

I'm sorry Roeland, but your statement about SWIP'ing anything
less than a
/24 is just inaccurate.  We SWIP /29s and /30s daily, for
both our Frame
and our DSL customers.

Tell it to SpeakEasy.




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