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Re: Stealth Blocking
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk () cybernothing org>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:40:22 -0700

On 05/23/01, Mitch Halmu <mitch () netside net> wrote: 

Third, the new 'rule' MAPS just came up with now is that you must keep your 
server open to their 'testing', or they'll blackhole you. See for yourself:
That is the reason given for blocking us the second time around. No new 
'evidence', just open wide for inspection and say ahhh...

Uhhh... so how do you propose that relays are tested to make sure they're
closed before being removed from the database?

This is the very thing they considered abusive just a few months ago.
Wasn't it MAPS that blocked ORBS for scanning Abovenet's ports in the 
first place? So now they took their rival's worst rules and made it their 
own. Now it's my turn to say absolute rubbish.

        You're blocking MAPS' test, but you leave your server open to
        relay from just about anywhere else.  Perhaps the error message
        they gave you was unclear, but it should be fairly obvious that
        if you want to get off the list, you have to close the relay.

        MAPS isn't "forcing" you to do anything, you know.  You're very
        welcome to continue to leave it open.  And, likewise, everyone
        else is equally welcome to block all mail from your server, with
        or without MAPS' easy removal process.

J.D. Falk                                                SILENCE IS FOO!
<jdfalk () cybernothing org>

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