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Re: Stealth Blocking
From: Margie Arbon <margie () mail-abuse org>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:47:59 -0700

--On Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:04 PM -0400 Robert Sharp <rsharp () appliedtheory com> wrote:

I infact installed MAPS to see if it helped the
problem.  It did not because the user didn't run an open relay site
but rather a no confirmation email list.  Would I be correct to
assume they should be in the MAPS list too?

They would be eligible for listing on the RBL per http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/candidacy.html.

As you can see sometime
spam/annoying emails is not always sent throught an open relay but
sometimes it's a problem with mailing lists.....  What should maps
do, start adding sites that act like this?

When we receive a valid and actionable nomination per the requirements of http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/reporting.html, it is investigated and handled according to procedures. If the entity is unable or unwilling to rectify the situation that allows them to continue to send unsolicited e-mail, they *do* get added to the RBL.

What we don't do is add them to the RSS. That's for open, single stage, abused relays. We haven't been escalating those to the RBL for the better part of a year. Multi-hop open abused relays are still eligible for listing on the RBL.

I am just making the point that if MAPS wasn't run by one person with
total control maybe some of us "retards who don't know what we are
doing" would be a bit more will to support the effort.

Well, since MAPS *isn't* run one person with total control but rather a good sized staff of folks that have various responsiblilties for receiving, assessing, investigating and recommending listings or otherwise resolving the nominations for our various lists, does this mean you are going to be supporting the effort?

You might want to read http://mail-abuse.org/articles/dmnews.2000-11-13.11536.html. I think you are a bit misinformed.

Margie Arbon                   Mail Abuse Prevention System, LLC
Manager, Market and Business Development
margie () mail-abuse org          http://mail-abuse.org

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