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Re: Stealth Blocking
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:02:30 -0400

On Thu, 24 May 2001 09:46:19 PDT, "Eric A. Hall" said:
TCP rate-limiting on outbound traffic to *:25 would also be extremely
effective, particularly on unclassified customer traffic, and without the
heavy-handed nature of denying all dial-up traffic. Rate-limiting doesn't
interfere with low-volume legitimate mail, but it really cramps spam.

I've seen a number of opinions that it doesn't do squat to cramp spam.

Remember that the spammer is handing the "open" relay one piece of mail
with zillions of RCPT TO:s - rate limiting the outbound just means that
the zillions of recipients sit in *your* queue that much longer.  Also,
I have heard from multiple sources that the spammers are well clued
enough to utilize multiple relays in parallel - if you rate limit to
1/N of bandwidth, they just use N relays at the same time.  The problem
is that you shoot YOURSELF in the foot by DOS'ing yourself by the time
you get N cranked high enough to do any serious damage to the spammer....

                                Valdis Kletnieks
                                Operating Systems Analyst
                                Virginia Tech

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