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Re: Yes it's off topic but who cares right now.
From: <measl () mfn org>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:56:26 -0500 (CDT)

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Barney Wolff wrote:

In the long run Islam will have to purge itself of its Crusaders, just
as other religions largely have.  The war is not against Islam but
against a set of murderous fanatics, and it would be foolish indeed
NOT to hate them.

Remember, the rise of the fundamentalist Muslim "crusader" was a direct
reaction from the formerly "modern" _despots_ put in place, and maintained
in place, by the U.S.  The Shah used his people as a playground for the
secret police.  Dozens of other countires have been in the same position.  

The one thing MANY of these now "fundamentalist" countries share in common
is a long history of extreme conditions which were put in place by, and
supported by, the "peace loving citizens of the United States".  Bah.

The crusaders could never have come to power if we had acted like HUMAN
BEINGS.  Or even less, if we had just practiced what we preached.

J.A. Terranson
sysadmin () mfn org

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...

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