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RE: On Internet and social responsibility
From: Greg Mirsky <gmirsky () axiowave com>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:08:51 -0400
Sorry, but I want to point out that Vadim (and I'll second his opinion) was
talking about a particular site www.Kavkaz.org which is set by Chechen
terrorists (sorry again, I wouldn't call them "rebels" since it an insult to
those who rebel for cause).
Last time I've checked Chechnya was not part of USA and thus none of them is
a US citizen unless there are mercenaries. If that's the case then why
you're talking about Freedom of Speech and First Amendment? How it's
applicable to foreign terrorist organization that uses American company to
spread its ideas? Or perhaps you're more tolerable to Chechen terrorists
using American info-space then if it would be bin Laden using it? Would your
company host a site that posts Laden's fatwahs (sp?)? Would you provide them
with 24*7 customer support? If not, please try to explain to me, where's
From: Andy Walden [mailto:andy () tigerteam net]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:02 PM
To: David Schwartz
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: On Internet and social responsibility
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, David Schwartz wrote:
I think you misunderstand what free speech is and means. Freedom of speech
means the right to express those ideas you wish using that which is yours
use. It does not include the right to commandeer other people's presses.
Common misconception that Freedom of Speech has anything to do
with you or me and what we tell each other. Actually Freedom of Speech
means freedom from governement censorship, and has nothing do with with
U.S. Citizen to Citizen communications.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the Government for a redress of grievances.