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Re: Points of Failure (was Re: National infrastructure asset)
From: Chris Woodfield <rekoil () semihuman com>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:23:33 -0400
One thing to keep in mind that the number of routes that disappeared from
the routing table, while a start, is in no way the final arbiter of how a
particular incident affected the internet's performance. While the direct
effect is obvious, other, less easily measurable consequences can result
from the loss of capacity producing congestion on the remaining network
infrastructure, as well as increased latency resulting from longer
backhauls. If there's plenty of available backup bandwidth, this effect
wil be minimal, but if not, let the pain begin.
As an example, a certain DSL provider has had to reroute their Covad PVCs
from 25 Broadway to their Boston and Washington, DC installations, resulting
in their capacity to Covad in those locations being almost completely
pegged 24/7. Not fun to be their customer in any of these areas right
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 12:22:08PM -0700, Grant A. Kirkwood wrote:
Sean Donelan wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Bob Bownes wrote:
But there was a point in time when taking out a certain parking garage
in Va could have caused us a very great deal of difficulty. But I'd say
we are past that, for the most part.
When 25 Broadway failed, approximately 1% of the global Internet
routing table also disappeared. Which I would guess qualifies it
as a "major" hub.
But does that mean that X number of sites were unreachable, or that
there were simply Y number fewer routes to X sites? (Excluding those
*directly* affected, ie; those *in* 25 Broadway)
Verizon still has 100,000 lines out of service, and only now
begun to restore service to "small" businesses.
Yes, but my understanding was that we were referring to IP traffic. POTS
doesn't exactly have a built-in routing protocol.
A couple of years ago a fiber cut in Ohio disrupted about 20% of
the Internet routing table.
But again, does this mean that 20% of the Internet was unreachable, or
that there were 20% fewer routes to a given number of (hopefully
No, this question is not rhetorical... I simply don't have any imperical
evidence to look at that could adequately answer this question.
Grant A. Kirkwood - grant () virtical net
Chief Technology Officer - Virtical Solutions, Inc.