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RE: Verio Peering Question
From: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding () sockeye com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:38:03 -0400

This shows the inherent hypocrisy of Verio's position. They claim that they
won't accept these routes from peers, as a way of contributing to the public
good, and limiting routing table size. However, that goes right out the
window, when a little cash is waved around.

The real reason for Verio's position could easily be that it is an effort to
force those who are announcing prefixes that they will not listen to from
peers, to buy transit directly from Verio.

I think Sprint should be applauded from dropping their antiquated routing
policy. Verio should definitely be passed over when folks are making
transit-buying decisions, as they implement a filter policy that is
basically anti-social.

Those who extol the virtues of aggressive filtering, also tend to be the
same folks who denounce multihoming, other than by a select few, in the name
of lofty concepts such as controlling routing table size. However, the
empirical evidence of the last few years, when /24s have become essentially
globally routable (excluding neo-luddite carriers such as Verio), prove the
fallacy of this viewpoint.

- Daniel Golding

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Craig Pierantozzi
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 9:24 PM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Verio Peering Question

* Thus spake Patrick W. Gilmore (patrick () ianai net):


Oh, one other point - Verio accepts smaller announcements from their
customers - and propagates them.  I guess Verio agrees that
other people
can run networks with all the extra announcements, even if
Verio themselves

The rationale stated in past threads is that Verio's customers
pay for this
service.  Non-customers are not paying Verio for anything
therefore they do
not choose to accept the more specific announcements from other

Other providers have not taken this stance as shown by the list of those
that accept more specifics from peers.


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