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RE: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question
From: "Deepak Jain" <deepak () ai net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 18:37:06 -0400

Lucent's Optistar line is available in OC12 and OC48 versions.

Deepak Jain

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Mr. James W. Laferriere
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 1:02 PM
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer
Cc: Joseph T. Klein; nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question

        Hello All,  Darn I hate this , But I have to chime in here .

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
On Friday 28 September 2001, at 20 h 6,
"Joseph T. Klein" <jtk () titania net> wrote:
Yeah right. I suggest you look at real world loaded 7200s. They have
problems with full routing tables.
I don't know, I don't use Ciscos and I don't regret it.
Any Taiwan-made PC can swallow much more. The limit is not clear but is
certainly far away from us.

I want to you to put a couple of channelized DS-3s, an ATM OC12c,
and a POS OC48c to your backbone plus all the BGP peers you can sign
up at AADS on a PC.
Come on, I did not say that a PC can handle everything, just that it can
handle easily 100k routes.
        It is now quite possible to have a 64bit pci system with an oc-48
        card in it .  Check around folks they are there .  Not cheap at
        all but available .  The chennelised cards may be a little harder
        to find but I'd even bet they're out there already .  I do know
        the oc-12c cards are .  Try Marconi or InterPhase or ...

I don't know the limit but neither do you (did you try the funny
you suggest or are you just guessing?) The only thing I'm sure, because I
it daily, is that 100k routes is not a lot for today's machines.
        Joe May darned well have tried ;-) .  But I and maybe a few others
        may even know that the Larger optical cards are available .  I
        sure have not seen any mention on this list about them .  Or any
        other lists for that matter .  Twyl ,  JimL

The black and white simplicity expressed by people on this forum is
The ability of some people to continue the discussion about the "routing
explosion" legend as if we were still in a world of 64 mega-bytes routers
(with a Motorola 68020) is unbelievable.

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