Terribly sorry to stray so much from on topic, but I have a question
satisfactorily answer my self. First I wish to convey my deep sorrow
sympathy to all listmembers directly or indirectly affected by this
Our thoughts and prayers are with you here in Canada, and we shall
with one heart and mind at those that perpetrated this act. My
You can't get into a cab in NYC that doesn't have a shield that
cabbie from the passengers. Why on earth is the cabin even
the passenger compartment? Could planes not be constructed to
cabin entirely from the passengers? You could certainly provide
seating for pilots that were flying along forward of this partition.
Is there any good reason for the amount of trust which is required in
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Stewart" <dbs () ntrnet net>
To: <nanog () merit org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Lack of Security
At 09:42 PM 9/12/2001, Robert Hough wrote:
The security we display in most aspects of our society echo the
security we display in most of our networks as well.
Now ask yourself, why was it so easy to hijack these planes?
have sacrificed security for convenience - and our enemy used that
against us. Well, something to chew on. G'Night.
Can someone explain to me how only allowing ticketed passengers
security checkpoints is going to accomplish anything toward
security? The only thing I can even dream of is that it will
number of people passing the checkpoints.
These hijackers were ticketed passengers.
No carry-on? OK, so it will reduce hiding places for non-metallic
weapons. On the other hand, so much for taking your laptop with
you - are
you willing to entrust your laptop to baggage handlers? Willing to
your Palm in your checked luggage?
This is just my feeling, but I honestly believe these measures are
giving the *appearance* of security, apparently to make the general
I do agree, though, with the comments on network security - so
are much more lax about the security of their networks than
been. As an anecdote, when I came to my current job last year, the
was wide open. Since, I've placed servers behind firewalls, and
things like NetBIOS (you wouldn't believe the cry that went up from
customers when I did that - they *want* to use NetBIOS shares
business offices in various cities)