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Totally OT, sorry; was (Re: Lack of Security)
From: Joe Shaw <jshaw () insync net>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:47:39 -0500 (CDT)

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Robert Hough wrote:

Now ask yourself, why was it so easy to hijack these planes? Because we
have sacrificed security for convenience - and our enemy used that
against us. Well, something to chew on. G'Night.

So are you advocating a loss of freedom in the physical world for
security?  I'm willing to accept certain measures to make the planes
and airports more secure, sure.  But I refuse to lose any freedoms
provided by the Bill of Rights.  Of course, many believe that's outdated
anyway.  The 5th and 4th Amendments are already pretty useless thanks to
the "war on drugs".  The 2nd is the big enemy right now to most.  After
that's finally chipped away the 1st will probably be next, all in the
interest of National Security and safety.  I should go find my tin foil...

And since my primary job these days is security, I can say insecure
systems come from three primary causes; human error, human ignorance and
human laziness.  Neither of which will be erradicated anytime soon.  Human
error generally causes the problem, human ignorance means you don't know
there's a problem, and human laziness keeps you from fixing it.

Remember guys, while there's a lot of 0-day used by the underground, most
attacks are for known and correctable bugs.

Joseph W. Shaw II
Network Security Specialist/CCNA
Unemployed.  Will hack for food.  God Bless.
Apparently I'm overqualified but undereducated to be employed.

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