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Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:12:30 -0400


On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:10:57AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:55:30AM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
Yes, it is that hard.  Sadly, almost everyone I see push the IRR
works for a small ISP.  And at least half of those work for a small
ISP in Europe.

    C&W, Level3, Global Crossing and NTT/Verio are small isps?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but they all use the IRR to filter
customers.  That's a fine application of the IRR, and one I encourage.
I don't think any of them use the IRR to filter peers.  Indeed, I
can provde they don't filter certian big peers due to the fact they
don't register thier routes at all. :)

Global Crossing doesn't use the IRR to filter their BGP speaking
customers, every prefix-list update gets touched by a human. While their
response time is good, and they're generally friendly people, they do have
a tendancy to prove that they are human by forgetting or typoing a random
route with nearly every other update. When you start getting into the
hundreds of routes, personally I will go through the trouble to maintain
IRR entries any day vs letting humans break stuff.

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Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>       http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
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