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Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?
From: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs () seastrom com>
Date: 27 Aug 2003 20:26:26 -0400



Excellent points; didn't cross my mind since I've had (personal)
accounts with Delta and United for ages now.  Probably a call to
ForwardAir, Cavalier, or EGL would get you their rules of engagement
too.

You might want to try http://www.khcargo.com/ for non-passenger air cargo.


                                        ---Rob

Andy Ellifson <andy () ellifson com> writes:

A counter-to-counter shipment on a passenger airline is a thing of the
past (at least from my experiences going directly to the passenger
airlines).  After Sept 11 the FAA has required that passenger airlines
only accept shipments from "known shippers" (unless this has changed in
the last 14 months).  What does this mean?  You need to setup an
account with the airline (may of them will setup the account and still
be able to bill to a credit card).  You also need to become a "known
shipper" by having their courier/employee visit your location and
verify that you are a "known shipper".  Once this occurs you can do
passenger airline counter-to-counter shipments at will.  Setup time
takes 7-10 days from what I remember.

If anybody has counter-to-counter on their disaster recovery plans you
may want to get setup as a "known shipper".  I went through the process
with United's Cargo division http://www.unitedcargo.com.  I used them
as a backup to America West Airlines as I am located in Phoenix, AZ.

-Andy


--- "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs () seastrom com> wrote:


"N. Richard Solis" <nrsolis () aol net> writes:

FedEx will be your best bet.  Trust me.

FedEx Heavy = "pay a surcharge for heavy boxes, get it moved by a 120
pound delivery person with a handtruck rather than a pallet jack or
other appropriate freight handling equipment... and dropped off the
truck".  My experience is a 40% damage rate when shipping Cisco 7507
and 7513 routers via FedEx Heavy.  Here are some pictures from back
when I was at AboveNet: http://www.seastrom.com/fedex/

You COULD do a counter to counter shipment via an airline cargo
desk. 
That MIGHT be cheaper but you will still have to transport it from
your 
spot to their pickup and back again on the other side.

Counter-to-counter is the *last* way you would want to ship that sort
of thing (handled as luggage on a flight, beat to hell by baggage
handlers, and you get to retrieve it from baggage claim in an airport
and schlep it all the way to your car).  Far better (if you have
access to trucks on both ends) is to ship it air freight.  As you
enter your favorite airport, follow the signs to Air Cargo, not the
signs to the passenger terminal.  When you find a place with a lot of
places for 18-wheelers to back up to loading docks, and relatively
few
places for cars to park, you've found the right place.  Matthew
doesn't mention specific terminus points for the shipment, but based
on whois information I'll make a wild guess that NYC is one end.  JFK
appears to be the "big" United installation (vs LGA and EWR), per
info
on www.unitedcargo.com - I tend to prefer them because of their long
hours for pickup and delivery at IAD, which makes life convenient for
me.  :)

If you need door-to-door service, there are numerous air freight
forwarders who can handle palletized equipment and move it around the
country/world in a timely fashion (and really, if you're talking
about
300+ pounds of rackmount equipment, that's how you want to move it
anyway).

Two companies that I've used and been quite happy with the results
are
Cavalier International and Eagle Global Logistics.  You may recognize
Eagle's logo from stickers on previous shipments that you've gotten
from major manufacturers who have stuff manufactured in the Far East.
The Pros Know.

http://www.eaglegl.com/
http://www.cavalier-intl.com/

                                        ---Rob



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