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RE: How much longer..
From: "McBurnett, Jim" <jmcburnett () msmgmt com>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:48:33 -0400


OK.. 
I have lurked enough on this one..
$60 Billion plus for microsoft..
and 600 millions lines of code.
thousands of employee programmers...

$1 million for *NIX
less than a million lines of code.
rewritten on a whim, and source given to
millions.. 
Bugs will be found and squashed easier.
Less code, more eyes. and less complex.
Less market, less users, less interest for hackers

5 less than statements for *NIX and how many more 
statements for Micro$oft?

This is like trying to comparing the towing capacity of
car to turbo diesal pickup.
there is no comparison...
I don't care if MicroSoft spends $600 Million a year,
there will always be bugs.

If a software package was perfect or a network was perfect how many
of us would have jobs?
Nothing in this world is perfect, and complaining about it does 
absolutely no good....

J




-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Sprickman [mailto:spork () inch com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:30 PM
To: Crist Clark
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: How much longer..



On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Crist Clark wrote:

Attacks _are_ on Linux machines. There have been Linux worms, Lion attacked
BIND, Ramen attacked rpc.statd and wu-ftpd, Slapper attached Apache, to
name a few. Attacks are on Solaris, the sadmin/IIS worm (which also attacked
IIS, a cross-platform worm, remember that, cool, huh?). Attacks are on FreeBSD,
Scalper worm attacked Apache.

How soon people seem to forget these things.

No, I don't think people are forgetting, but what Len was originally
pointing out is that Microsoft, *because* of their vast install base
*needs* to take a more proactive role in producing a secure OS.

And the reason you can call it a "toy" OS is that on one hand you have
*BSD, Linux and friends all with an annual budget of what, maybe $1M?  And
on the other hand you have a multi-billion dollar *software* company.

Which should churn out better software? :)

Charles

To pound it home one more time, worms that attack Microsoft products are a
bigger deal only because Microsoft has at least an order of magnitude greater
installbase than the nearest competitor.
--
Crist J. Clark                               crist.clark () globalstar com
Globalstar Communications                                (408) 933-4387

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