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Re: Did Sean Gorman's maps show the cascading vulnerability in Ohio?
From: Scott McGrath <mcgrath () fas harvard edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:59:26 -0400 (EDT)



We have a permutation of this in NH.  When the hole is greater than 1'
deep we need a permit.  This does illustrate the difficulties though we
have too much government interference now. _but_ we do need some way of
ensuring that information is used responsibly and I do not think that a
government agency is the right way to go about solving this dilemma.

Out here in the sticks a popular form of entertainment seems to be
shooting out the insulators on transmission lines.  I really do not want
to tell Bubba and Joe which lines will plunge the region into darkness.
On the other hand I need the information so that I can put into place the
appropriate measures to ensure that services stay online in the event
Bubba and Joe hit the wrong line.

                            Scott C. McGrath

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Kevin Oberman wrote:

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:15:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott McGrath <mcgrath () fas harvard edu>
Sender: owner-nanog () merit edu



Information should be free.  This however assumes that people will be
_responsible_ for what is done with the information.

On Manuel and Jose - with a valid permit number they get the information
if Bubba and Joe do not have a _valid_ permit number they do not get the
information because in the absence of legitimate need for this information
they probably should not have it

This does not at all match reality. People don't have to have a permit
to need to call USA (Call before you dig where I live.) Many things
not requiring a permit do require calling USA before digging. I just
tell them that I am digging at a location and they tell me if it's OK
and if anything is near-by.

I've been told to call for any dig deeper than 1 foot. Planting a tree
does not require a permit, but the hole is plenty deep enough to be a
problem!
--
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman () es net                     Phone: +1 510 486-8634



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