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Re: VoIP over IPsec
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () research att com>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:11:45 -0500


In message <006401c2d655$abb5d560$93b58742 () ssprunk>, "Stephen Sprunk" writes:

Thus spake "Charles Youse" <cyouse () register com>
In order to cut costs in our telecom budget I'm toying with the idea
of replacing a lot of our inter-office leased lines with VPN
connections over the public Internet.  [...]
Assume for the moment that latency and bandwidth are not an issue;
e.g., any two points that will be exchanging voice data will both have
transit from the same provider with an aggressive SLA.

Latency, bandwidth, and packet loss are moot.  Jitter is VoIP's enemy.


While jitter is more important, you can't ignore the others.  The 
traditional phone network has long had a delay budget -- each component 
is supposed to bound how long it takes to process voice.  Bandwidth 
matters, too, because the serialization delay for a packet increases 
the latency at that hop.

This causes problems for compression and IPsec.  You can get better 
compression -- and hence reduce bandwidth demands -- by compressing 
longer samples.  Of course, this means that you can't finish the 
compression until the end of that time interval, which increases the 
latency.  The obvious solution is to compress shorter segments, but 
that means that the IPsec overhead is a significant portion of the 
bandwidth consumed, which again has latency implications for 
bandwidth-limited channels.

I'm not saying you can't do this; I am saying that under certain 
circumstances, there may be issues.  Latency, for example, is a 
psychoacoustic phenomena (did you enjoy the last call you made over a 
satellite circuit?  I didn't.)

And yes, I had to crunch the numbers on this for my day job a few years 
ago.


                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me)
                http://www.wilyhacker.com (2nd edition of "Firewalls" book)



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