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RE: - Please update your filters
From: Scott Granados <scott () wworks net>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:27:26 -0800 (PST)

Just a data point to add here.   when you have tried the other means of
contact first, nanog has been helpful for getting things done.  I had
started having issue with the 69 blocks back in September and when posting
for help all the networks had someone respond very quickly and it was
resolved.  Again, its good to have this common operational area to work
these things out.

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Todd A. Blank wrote:

In my original thread, I referred to the "orphaned" equipment in use in
many networks.  I am sure it does not help when organizations have
massive layoffs and the people that put these filters in place or
originally managed the offending devices are no longer employed by the
organization in question.

As once told to me by a prior employer of mine (right before he
eliminated my job):

"After all, once the network is up and running, who needs all those
"extra" people to manage it?" :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Sameer R. Manek [mailto:manek () ecst csuchico edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Todd A. Blank; jlewis () lewis org; haesu () towardex com
Cc: stephen () sprunk org; eddy+public+spam () noc everquick net;
nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: - Please update your filters

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Todd A. Blank

We were an early user of the 69/8 address space.  I started the
thread on this subject back in Sept/Oct 2002.  While I am very
(but not surprised) to find out that there are still serious issues
networks acknowledging this allocation, this is one of the best
suggestions I have seen for doing something to force the issue.

Filters once in place are rarely removed, unless the maintainers of the
filters are notified about a specific problem. Even then the filters
completely go away. There is always a device or two in everyone's
that have been forgotten about, with outdated filters.


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