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Re: Full Internet ASN <--> AS Name resolution
From: william () elan net
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:06:08 -0700 (PDT)

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Ricardo G Patara wrote:

I'd not consider this as a problem, but actually this is a privacy
mechanism in place to avoid data mining.

That is all very nice, but what about those who run central whois redirection
service where requests come in from users & systems and one central server
then does actual lookup? My completewhois system hardly the only that
does it, there are probably two dozen or more systems like this - geektols,
uwho, numerous spam reporting systems, dshield, mynetwatchman and other 
central intrusion systems, etc.

Besides that all other RIRs - ARIN, RIPE, APNIC have methods to prevent 
data mining, but I do not have problems with query limits at ARIN (not 
for last year), RIPE or APNIC but LACNIC where I do by far the least 
number of lookups (on the scale of 1:20 less then RIPE or 1:50 to ARIN) 
I'm hitting the limits immediatly. Obviously pataroo who did only lookups 
by ASNs also hit the limits and they did not even program for such an 
event which resulted in all those segfaults.

Besides that I'm even more concerned that this came as absolute surprise 
to me, no announcement anywhere at all, I'm on am at anuncios and there 
was nothing sent there about changes to whois and nothing on website and 
as far as I could tell it was not discussed at politicas either. And even 
worth you're doing these limits and providing no way to get the data by 
any other means then whois as your bulk whois policy is still 2 months away
from being implemented - you could have aleast waited these two months!

Please think about removing the limits for the next two months until bulk 
whois is ready! Or at the very least monitore the situation and adjust the 
limits (to at least 5 times what it is now probably), possibly talk to 
ARIN or RIPE on how they deal with data mining!

William Leibzon
Elan Communications Inc. 
william () elan net

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