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Re: companies like microsoft and telia...
From: Curtis Maurand <curtis () maurand com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:05:55 -0400 (EDT)



Let's not forget those little smtp daemons that you can install on your 
local machine to bypass your ISP's smtp server.  I've actually 
installed a couple of them for small clients that needed a mail server 
their office could send through because Verizon's smtp server will not 
accept an email address that doesn't end with verizon.com. (I digress) 
The bottom line is all that email can come from countless thousands of 
dynamically addressed broadband ISP client machines.  Any  PIII or PIV 
machine of reasonable speed can send thousands of email messages per 
hour.  There are lots of email blasting packages out there available for 
the download.

Curtis

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:


...are doing more to help spam than to stop it, in spite of themselves.

consider microsoft-yahoo-aol's big fad of the moment which is suing spammers
and blaming asia.  the number one (#1) contributor to spam is open proxies
running on windows/xp, several of which are installed by default as side
effects of other user activities.  spam can now come from tens of millions
of untraceable places, and since it's an open proxy rather than an open relay
there isn't even a Received: header trail.  WHAT a marketing department,
though, to be able to (successfully!) blame spam on asia.

but what have we here?  i would not have imagined that in 2003 any company
could be as blatantly irresponsible as to behave the way telia documents here:

      route:        217.208.0.0/13
      descr:        TELIANET-BLK
      remarks:      Abuse issues should be reported at
      remarks:      http://www.telia.com/security/
      remarks:      Mail to abuse () telia net will be auto-replied
      remarks:      and referred to the URL above.
      origin:       AS3301
      mnt-by:       TELIANET-RR
      changed:      rr () telia net 20010508
      source:       RIPE

excuse me, telia, but your customers are spamming me, and i have no plans to
teach lartomatic (my homebrew complaintbot) how to log into your web site.
it is the year 2003, and you bloody well need to learn how to accept complaints
about YOUR CUSTOMERS using a format that is most convenient to THE VICTIMS.
(and you should be THANKING US FOR IT since we are DOING YOUR WORK FOR YOU.)

grrrrrrrrrrrrr.  clearly i need to stop accepting e-mail from 217.208.0.0/13.


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Curtis Maurand
mailto:curtis () maurand com
http://www.maurand.com



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