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RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened
From: "William Devine, II" <william () smartguys net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:19:52 -0500

Must've been a doubly hard day huh?


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Callahan, Richard M, SOLGV
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:01 PM
To: Stephen Sprunk; LeBlanc, Robert
Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes; nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

Ladies and Gentlemen,

This has been an extremely difficult day for me personally and
professionally due to many issues we had. Without going into the painful
details, let me assure the community my original post was for exactly for
the reason I posted - and we do indeed know how to run a standards compliant
mail system.  A side effect to the problems encountered was an inability to
send a valid IP address among other things to operate the mail system and
instead sending a static LB IP address, which effectively made all our mail
look, as Mr.Sprunk so eloquently phrased, suspicious looking.

We are over the hump - lost a tremendous amount of credibility and the
opportunity to show "the government at work".  The FTC has put their all
into this project and the associated laws which I would hope all of you
anti-spam police would appreciate.  My apologies to the community for all
the trash email this fiasco has produced, but more so to my customer for not
delivering the quality they deserve.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:stephen () sprunk org]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:10 PM
To: LeBlanc, Robert
Cc: Callahan, Richard M, SOLGV; North American Noise and Off-topic
Subject: Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

Thus spake "LeBlanc, Robert" <Robert.LeBlanc () savvis net>
"It's very difficult to make the technology work... Spam blockers are
automated and the software rules are arbitrary," he said.

It's a shame the press are putting the blame for this on anti-spam software,
as it's clear that the DoNotCall.gov people have brought the problem on
themselves by not running a standards-compliant mail system.

What's worse is they knew this was coming and didn't do anything to prevent
it!  It appears Mr. Callahan's message to nanog wasn't to look for advice on
how not to trigger spam filters -- it was to beg us to add his systems to
our whitelists so his suspicious-looking mail would go through.

Looks like a case of "Good enough for government work" in action.


Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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