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RE: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact?
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow () verizonbusiness com>
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:36:56 +0000 (GMT)

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Ivan Groenewald wrote:

Earlier, Valdis scribbled:
There's also the deeper question:  Why do we let the situation persist?
Why do we tolerate the continued problems from unreachable companies?
(And yes, this *is* an operational issue - what did that 4 hours on the
phone cost your company's bottom line in wasted time?)

To a certain extent, it's simple economic logic.
At the end of the day, I got my issue sorted and it cost me 4 hours of
billable time. It cost the other party 15 minutes of time. Why employ
another person full time to deal with queries or man an email desk, to save
*me* 3h45min? It makes economic sense for bigger companies not to, well,
"care". They aren't going to go away, you're not going to get in the way of
the big Google/MS/BigCorp(tm) engine with gripes on your blog, so why bother
spending more money on helping *you*?

It might sound very black and white, but I can tell you now that a lot of
these companies use that as a rationale even without thinking about it so

actually, working for a largish company, I'd say one aspect not recognized
is the scale on their side of the problem... abuse () mci|uu|vzb gets (on a
bad month) 800k messages, on a 'good' month only 400k ... how many do
yahoo/google/msn get? How many do their role accounts get for
hostmaster/postmaster/routing/peering ?? Expecting that you can send an
email and get a response 'quickly' is just no reasonable unless you expect
just an auto-ack from their ticketting system.


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