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Re: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:56:37 -0600
Thus spake "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
On Feb 24, 2006, at 9:03 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
I have 2 core routers (CR) and 3 access routers (AR)
currently connected point-to-point where each AR connects to
each CR for a total of 6 ckts. Now someone has decided to
connect them with Gig-E. I was wondering about the benefits
or disadvantages of keeping the ckts each in their own
individual LANs or tying them all into one VLAN for a
"Transit LAN" as those folks that decided on going to Gig-E
aren't doing any logical network architecting (is that a
Personally, I like the to KISS, so one big 'transit LAN'.
ITYM two big transit LANs -- one must be prepared for a switch to fail.
An argument could be made for individual VLANs to keep things like b- cast
storms isolated. But I think the additional complexity will cause more
problems than it will solve.
If you have broadcast storms on a subnet with five routers and nothing else
on it, you've got bigger problems than config complexity.
Or maybe I'm just too dumb to keep up with the additional complexity. :)
One must keep in mind that human error is the dominant cause of outages, and
since there's not likely to be backhoes running around in a data center,
IMHO the goal should be to remove as many ways as possible that your
coworkers can muck things up.
I'd go with two plain GigE switches, as dumb as I could find them, barely
configured or possibly not even managed at all, and one /28 (and one /64) on
each to allow for adding more ARs later.
There are a few advantages to going with PTP VLANs, such as eliminating
DR/BDR elections needed on shared ones, but you'd need 10 of them to get a
full mesh, and 15 if you add one more router. That's just too much
complexity for virtually no gain, and as Owen notes, it is generally bad for
your logical topology to not match the physical one.
Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart
CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves with
K5SSS smart people who disagree with them." --Aaron Sorkin
Re: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs Owen DeLong (Feb 25)
Re: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs Stephen Sprunk (Feb 25)
Re: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs Pete Templin (Feb 26)
Re: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs Owen DeLong (Feb 26)
RE: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs Ejay Hire (Feb 27)
Re: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs John Curran (Feb 27)