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Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat?
From: sgorman1 () gmu edu
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:00:43 -0500

While it is always fun to call the government stupid, or anyone else for that matter, there is a little more to the 

- For one you do not need a backhoe to cut fiber
- Two, fiber carries a lot more than Internet traffic - cell phone, 911, financial tranactions, etc. etc.
- Three, while it is very unlikely terrorists would only attack telecom infrastructure, a case can be made for a 
telecom attack that amplifies a primary conventional attack.  The loss of communications would complicate things quite 
a bit.

I'll agree it is very far fethced you could hatch an attack plan from FCC outage reports, but I would not call worrying 
about attacks on telecommunications infrastructure stupid.  Enough sobriety though, please return to the flaming.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon () ttec com>
Date: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat?

Dennis Dayman wrote:

"In 2004, Department of Homeland Security officials became 
fearful that
terrorists might start using accidental dig-ups as a road map 
for deliberate
attacks, and convinced the FCC to begin locking up previously 
public data on
outages. In a commission filing, DHS argued successfully that 
revealing the




This is really stupid. Assuming the terrorist actually have the 
of backhoes needed to completely erase meaningfull internet 
in north america, they would probably prefer to use them to smash 
and kill people on the interstate highways or something.

Terrorist inflict terror by killing people, not by forcing 
explorer to display "page cannot be displayed".

Let us not assume that murderous terrorist are as dumb as people 
in DHS.

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