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Re: is this like a peering war somehow?
From: Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:10:38 +0000

Whatever. No-one's actually trying to do "some packets are more equal
than others" here in Europe, except for the mobile people with IMS and
such. BT just transferred its access network into a new division with
a specific remit to provide open access to all ISPs and alt-
tels who want it.

It's in the US that the RBOCs and cablesters are actually doing this.

On 1/20/06, Per Heldal <heldal () eml cc> wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:44:59 +0000, "Paul Vixie" <paul () vix com> said:

proving once again that "peering ratios" only matter if the other guy's
customers can live without your "assymetric" content, here are two
i saw today via slashdot.  what's interesting to me is whether bellsouth
will be sued some time later by some other content provider for
them without also having applied the same rules to google.  note, this
a bellsouth-specific rant, they just happen to be mentioned in today's

Carriers trying to charge content-providers for access to their
network/customers is just part of a greater picture. The telco industry
is fighting to re-establish their dominant position. Traditionally
they've been able to pocket (extort) a large portion of the revenue for
3rd-party PSTN services (content services) themselves. Over the last
decade they've gained control of the ISP-industry and noe they want to
achieve the same level of control of the internet. The most conservative
are even suggesting to remove internet-governance from the public
domain. The European telecoms industry is openly urging the UN to take
control of ICANN's role. In the process they are trying to place the
functions of IANA and IETF in their belowed ITU. Their ultimate goal is
to eliminate IP as a product, to be able to sell access to sub-protocols
as individual services.

  Per Heldal

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