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Re: is this like a peering war somehow?
From: "Per Heldal" <heldal () eml cc>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:52:00 +0100

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:54:34 +0100 (CET), "Mikael Abrahamsson"
<swmike () swm pp se> said:

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Alexander Harrowell wrote:

Whatever. No-one's actually trying to do "some packets are more equal 
than others" here in Europe, except for the mobile people with IMS and 
such. BT just transferred its access network into a new division with a 
specific remit to provide open access to all ISPs and alt- tels who want 

I'm sorry if I made the impression that it is already happening. Now
it's a game on the political arena, and it's important to support the
RIR-communities' efforts to provide balanced information to

My guess would be that basically everybody doing triple play will 
prioritize the IPTV and VoIP packets in their network including the 
access. Considering that streaming UDP IPTV requires very very low packet 
loss, much better than Best Effort, this is needed to provide a good 
quality service.

If you do LLQ you want to make sure you can control what goes into that 
class, that can be done several ways, including disallowing anything 
you don't know about (transit/ix) to go there.

This is preferential treatment for some packets and it makes perfect 
technological sense.

Preferential treatment of value-added services in the providers own
network is just fine. It's down-prioritizing competing services that may
become a problem. Like blocking all VoIP traffic not using the
providers' own "gateway-service".

  Per Heldal

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