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Re: Ethical DDoS drone network
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 01:08:24 -0500
On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:18 PM, deleskie () gmail com wrote:
Super risky. This would be a 99% legal worry plus. Unless all the
end points and networks they cross sign off on it the risk is beyond
Since when do I need permission of "networks they cross" to send data
from a machine I (legitimately) own to another machine I own? If this
were an FTP or other data transfer, would I have any legal issues?
And if not, how is that different from load testing using a random
Before anyone jumps up & down, I know that all networks reserve the
right to filter, use TE, or otherwise alter traffic passing over their
infrastructure to avoid damage to the whole. But if I want to (for
instance) stream a few 100 Gbps and am paying transit for all bits
sent or received, since when do I have any legal worries?
You want to 'attack' yourself, I do not see any problems. And I see
lots of possible benefits. Hell, just figuring out which intermediate
networks cannot handle the added load is useful information.
From: Jeffrey Lyon
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Ethical DDoS drone network
Sent: Jan 4, 2009 10:06 PM
Say for instance one wanted to create an "ethical botnet," how would
this be done in a manner that is legal, non-abusive toward other
networks, and unquestionably used for legitimate internal security
purposes? How does your company approach this dilemma?
Our company for instance has always relied on outside attacks to spot
check our security and i'm beginning to think there may be a more user
Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
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Black Lotus Communications of The IRC Company, Inc.
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Re: Ethical DDoS drone network Edward B. DREGER (Jan 07)
Re: Ethical DDoS drone network deleskie (Jan 05)
Re: Ethical DDoS drone network Roland Dobbins (Jan 05)
Re: Ethical DDoS drone network Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 05)