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Re: Ethical DDoS drone network
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 01:11:09 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 1:33 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

You want to 'attack' yourself, I do not see any problems. And I see lots of possible benefits.

This can be done internally using various traffic-generation and exploit-testing tools (plenty of open-source and commercial ones available). No need to build a 'botnet', literally - more of a distributed test-harness

And it must be *kept* internal; using non-routable space is key, along with ensuring that application-layer effects like recursive DNS requests don't end up leaking and causing problems for others.

We disagree.

I can think of several instances where it _must_ be external. For instance, as I said before, knowing which intermediate networks are incapable of handling the additional load is useful information.

But before any testing is done on production systems (during maintenance windows scheduled for this type of testing, naturally), it should all be done on airgapped labs, first, IMHO.

Without arguing that point (and there are lots of scenarios where that is not at all necessary, IMHO), it does not change the fact that external testing can be extremely useful after "air-gap" testing.

Fine test it by simulation on you or the transit end of the pipes. Do not transmit your test sh?t data across the `net.

That solves that question?

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