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RE: Ethical DDoS drone network
From: "Michael Gazzerro" <mike.gazzerro () nobistech net>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:13:59 -0600

You could just troll people on IRC until you get DDOS'd.  All the fun, none
of the work!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:54 AM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Ethical DDoS drone network

FWIW, I'm primarily concerned about testing PPS loads and not brute
force bandwidth.

Best regards, Jeff

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Edward B. DREGER
<eddy+public+spam () noc everquick net> wrote:
RD> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:54:50 +0800
RD> From: Roland Dobbins

RD> AUPs are a big issue, here..

And AUPs [theoretically] set forth definitions.

Of course, there exist colo providers with "unlimited 10 Gbps bandwidth"
whose AUPs read "do not use 'too much' bandwith or we will get angry",
thus introducing ambiguity regarding just _for what_ one is paying...

Perhaps "abuse" is best _operationally_ defined as "something that
angers someone enough that it's at least sort of likely to cost you some
money -- and maybe even a lot"?

Were the definition clear, I doubt there'd be such a long NANOG thread.
(Yes, I'm feeling optimistic today.)

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