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Re: Anyone notice strange announcements for
From: Joe Abley <jabley () hopcount ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:57:47 -0500

On 13 Jan 2009, at 15:39, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

See my earlier posts about using someone else's resources without their permission or even notifying them, then telling them it is OK because they shouldn't care anyway.

I read them. Nobody is using anybody else's resources. None of the people who reacted did so because their prefixes had been hijacked. All that happened was that someone decided to attach an attribute to a non-hijacked prefix that made people scratch their heads, because to them it was an unusual use of the attribute.

If I want to advertise a prefix, I'll attach whatever attributes I like to it. People can choose not to accept it if they want, as ever. What next? Am I "hijacking AS 701" if I attach the community string attribute 701:1000 to a prefix I originate, or even one I learn from a peer or customer?

The fact that I choose to stick 701 in an AS_PATH attribute on a prefix I advertise in order to stop that prefix from propagating into 701 is entirely my own business, and it's a practice which, although apparently not commonplace, has been a well-known part of the IDTE toolbox for many years.

The only real victims of this recent (non-)event are the people who have spent time wading through an enormous circular thread filled with people trying to convince others to change their minds about something that had no operational impact whatsoever to anybody, regardless of the fact that it's surely by now clear that nobody is interested in changing their mind.

Really, this is not how I expected someone of your caliber to respond.

Then apparently you hadn't read any of my other comments in this thread (or perhaps this was intended just as weak ad-hominem wrist- slapping).


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