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Re: Are you getting Spam from Crossfire Media?
From: JC Dill <jcdill.lists () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:19:01 -0800

Graeme Fowler wrote:
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 14:43 -0500, Reynold Guerrier wrote:
My subscription to NANOG aged 3 months ago and I am receiving this spam too.
And this is my first post. I effectively think that someone might have crack
the email database of the Nanog list.

Funny; I'm not in that sort of business and I haven't received that sort
of spam. Funny also that both Reynold and JC have quite significant
online presences (as determined from a quick Google) which reveal lots
of interesting info - if you were a person interested in selling them
something, anyway. Especially wireless kit.

The particular email address ceased being used (by me) over a year ago, but suddenly 4 weeks ago I was "subscribed" to their mailing list. Apparently the common theme is that we all registered for the VON conference at one point. Apparently they think it is OK to take an address that was used to register for VON several years ago and now, suddenly, and without MY PERMISSION "subscribe" me to a marketing spam list on a different topic.

RSK wrote:
3. But it's utterly pointless to obfuscate addresses in such archives:
spammers have long since set up quite efficient methods of harvesting
any address used on any public mailng list or Usenet newsgroup. [1]  The
only people meaningfully impeded by these futile attempts at obfuscation
are legitimate senders.

Rich, I know that spammers can get an address by subscribing and scarfing the emails that are used to post to the list. I just don't want to see it be made any easier for them by idiots making their own public web archives (when this list already has a web archive) and then not obfuscating the email addresses. As you and others have also noted, that's just plain rude.

To tie in with another thread, those of you who don't see anything wrong with another network using someone's ASN in a way that triggered alerts to their network admins, and without permission (and causing said admin to miss part of a very important family event while he tracked down the source of the alert he received) probably didn't see anything wrong with the first unsolicited commercial email either. I mean, it's just one email, what's the harm.... you can just hit delete, right? I really can't understand why all of you are saying it's no big deal!

jc



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