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RE: Tightened DNS security question re: DNS amplification attacks. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
From: "David Zielezna" <David.Zielezna () acma gov au>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:59:29 +1100

I'm checking just with a mix of tcpdump/pcap, bind logs and p0f.  A bit
overboard, but logging is fun.

I haven't checked any dark hosts to see whether the attack repeatedly
sends queries to IPs which have never given an answer or indication of
any kind of life.  Your monitoring will probably determine this so let
us know what behavior you find.

DZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:steve () ibctech ca]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 2:47 PM
To: David Zielezna
Cc: John Martinez; nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Tightened DNS security question re: DNS amplification
attacks. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Good work!

How are you checking for this by hand?

Would it be safe to assume that running tcpdump on a box in the
following manner on a monitor port for a sizable portion of the network
be ok (as opposed to the DNS servers themselves, as I don't have control
over them all)?

sniffer# tcpdump -n -i em5 dst port 53 | grep "NS? . (17)"

22:38:31.150114 IP 64.57.246.146.43581 > 208.70.106.58.53: 23685+ NS? .
(17)

We have a mix of DNS servers, some BIND and some DJBDNS, a BIND ACL
won't work here. We also have single-homed clients that run accessible
DNS servers that appear to be Windows based.

ACL's outside of the BIND scope would be fantastic.

For now, I'm following the above list, and blocking everything ingress
that is not source port 53 from the IP to my network 53.

Steve

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