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Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:32:50 -0700

1.      Yes.
2.      Perhaps, but, it's minimal internal risk and the risk it poses to others
        can be mitigated by those others installing appropriate services
        on their own networks.
3.      We agree here as well.

Owen

On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Bhoomi Jain wrote:

Mr. Delong,

I am simply trying to explain that running a 6to4 on your network is a good idea, however advertising the anycast 
prefix to other networks has some risk, especially if you're experiencing problems with your Internet peerings.  
Hopefully Comcast will upgrade its capacity soon.  I appreciate Mr. John's continued leadership and contribution to 
the IPv6.

Sincerely,
Bhoomi Jain

At 20 Apr 2011 14:51:48 +0200 (CEST) from Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>:


The better solution to that problem is to get additional 6to4 relays deployed closer to India. Perhaps encouraging 
Tata to take some leadership in that area, for example.
I do not believe that the opening of the Comcast relays will harm BGP best path selection for the 6to4 prefix except 
in rather broken and/or pathological cases of BGP best path selection. Those cases should be relatively easy to 
identify and correct locally without preventing Comcast from significantly improving the 6to4 situation for the 
areas they serve by opening their relays.
I applaud John for his leadership in this area and I think the IPv6 work being done by Comcast sets a good example 
for the community. As a Comcast customer, praising Comcast does not come easy to me, but, in this area, they are 
doing excellent things and should be commended.
Owen

Sent from my iPad
On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Bhoomi Jain <bhoomij () india com> wrote:
Mr. John,

I thank you for asking the advice of the community.

As our colleagues suggest, having 6to4 relays inside the network helps to reduce the latency.  Opening up your 
generous services to a larger Internet community by advertising the 192.88.99.0/24 BGP prefix outside the network 
could have extreme and unintended consequences.

To give you an idea, a lot of the Internet in India depends on the service of the Tata companies, with 
international routing coming from Tata Communications AS 6453.  Announcing 192.88.99.0/24 to 6453 as a customer, I 
would worry about its treatment as BGP best-path, in place of closer 6to4 relays.  As you understand, these 
circuits are very far away, and also very full.  This is not something I would recommend.

Sincerely,
Bhoomi Jain

At 19 Apr 2011 22:51:24 +0200 (CEST) from "Brzozowski, John" <John_Brzozowski () [Cable Comcast com]>:


Folks,
Since deploying our 6to4 relays, Comcast has observed a substantial
reduction in the latency associated with the use of 6to4. As such we are
contemplating further opening our relays for use by others. The
availability of our 6to4 relays should improve the experience of others
using 6to4 as a means to access content and services over IPv6.
We have been open about our IPv6 activities and wanted to follow suit by
reaching out to the community and soliciting feedback before moving
forward. As always we wish to continue to advocate and support the
universal deployment of IPv6.
Please send any comments or questions to the list or if you wish to me
directly.
John
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