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Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:14:26 -0700

On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:37 PM, james machado wrote:

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> wrote:

On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:42 PM, james machado wrote:

Lets look at some issues here.

1) it's unlikely that a "normal" household with 2.5 kids and a dog/cat
will be able to qualify for their own end user assignment from ARIN.


I have a "normal household".
I lack 2.5 kids and have no dog or cat.

I have my own ARIN assignment.

Are you saying that the 2.5 kids and the dog/cat would disqualify them? I can't
find such a statement in ARIN policy.

Are you saying that a household that multihomes is abnormal? Perhaps today,
but, not necessarily so in the future.

Yes I am saying a household that mulithomes is abnormal and with
today's and contracted monopolies I expect that to continue.  You are
not a normal household in that 1) you multihome 2) you are willing to
pay $1500+ US a year for your own AS, IP assignments

while I don't disagree with the assertion that this is unrealistic the annual fee is $100 per org-id for direct 

sorry was unclear - I was guessing $1500+ for ASnumer + IP Assignments
but not counting  ISP costs for a year.  Looks like ARIN is charging
about $1250 per year for a new IPv6 assignment and the AS yearly cost
is rolled into that.  Granted ISP costs will probably be in the
ballpark of  $150 per month for 2 consumer grade connections and more
for business or better connections.


No, you still have it wrong.

There is a one-time charge of $500 for your ASN and $1250 for your /48.
After that, it is just $100/year, period.

The ISP costs do not have to be significantly more than what you already
pay for commodity access. My ISP costs total roughly $140/month, but, for
that I am subscribing to 50Mbps down and 7Mbps up and usually get
about 70Mbps down and close to 10Mbps up as well as a slower DSL
circuit for backup.

Yes, it's more than $20/month, but, decent business class service
from one provider is going to be around $60/month or more. So, if you
double that ($120), you're not far off from what I'm paying and for the
small incremental cost, I'm getting quite a bit more.


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