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Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap
From: "Tammy A. Wisdom" <tammy-lists () wiztech biz>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 23:29:59 -0600 (MDT)

I completely agree... the real issue here is the system is flawed and RIPE/ARIN/APNIC etc have zero actual authority 
over actual routing.  Yet another reason they aren't worth the money we flush down the toilet for them to do absolutely 

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Conrad" <drc () virtualized org>
To: "Arturo Servin" <arturo.servin () gmail com>
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:25:51 PM
Subject: Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap

On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Arturo Servin wrote:
    If you are claiming right over these prefixes I suggest you to
    contact RIPE NCC.

And that will do what exactly?

Back when I worked at an RIR, a prefix was "misplaced".  When I
contacted the (country monopoly PTT) ISP and told them the prefix
had been removed from APNIC's database and should not be routed.
 Their response was "We have a contract with the customer for
connectivity.  We do not have a contract with you." and I was
encouraged to get the customer to voluntarily withdraw the prefix.

If BGPSEC+RPKI were deployed, there might be something active the
RIRs could do.  However, this has its own implications regarding
centralized control of the routing system (as discussed, ironically
enough, in the RIPE region).  And this is going to get much more
'interesting' as the IPv4 free pool exhausts and the market moves
from black to grey or white.  Fun times ahead.


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