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Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:10:14 -0800

Carrier IQ does not qualify as a good use of a Trojan and comes about as close to your definition as I can think of.

No, a Trojan is malware. Any software which operates without the knowledge or consent of the user to engage in 
operations the user would not reasonably expect is not being used for good, no matter how well intentioned.


On Dec 6, 2011, at 3:49 PM, andrew.wallace wrote:

A trojan can be used for good if in the right hands as a remote access tool for business use.


From: Bryan Fields <Bryan () bryanfields net>
To: "nanog () nanog org" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]

On 12/6/2011 13:30, andrew.wallace wrote:
It could be argued that Nmap is malware, and such software has already been called to be made illegal.

If I was Cnet, I would stop distributing his software altogether.

Link: http://nmap.org/book/legal-issues.html

If this is not trolling and you actually believe this, just wow.....

Nmap is just a tool, and any tool can be misused by people for criminal acts.
It's really no different than a gun in that regard.  Both are incredibly
useful things in the right hands, mere tools to further security.  However in
the wrong hands they can be used to commit crimes and break other peoples

Bryan Fields

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