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Re: local_preference for transit traffic?
From: Mark Tinka <mtinka () globaltransit net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:55:36 +0800

On Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:32:03 AM Matthew Petach 

I've been able to negotiate peering+transit relationships
with providers, but only by threat of total revenue loss;
ie "we currently pay you $x million/year; we want your
on-net routes as settlement-free routes, and will
continue to pay for off-net transit traffic.  Otherwise,
we will be transferring all that revenue to your
competitor, X"

If the customer is taking these on-net routes via an 
exchange point or private peering arrangement, this should 
be fairly easy to do.

If they choose to take it over the same link as their off-
net service, not only does the provider need to support a 
visible way in which these services can be separated over 
the same wire, but it may also not make much sense for the 
customer as there is potential for on-net traffic to hog the 
link, making the case to upgrade the link for traffic that 
may not necessarily incentivise them to do so. But it's hard 
to judge this one, especially if the ISP is large with tons 
of other on-net customers "talking" to the customer 
negotiating such an arrangement.

I can see ISP's accepting to do this if the ratio of on-
net:off-net traffic is disproportionate, in favor of more 
off-net traffic.

This tends to be effective only for
content providers, though, where the outbound traffic
and you don't care if the inbound bits are coming
over the "pay for" pipe vs the "settlement free" pipe.

It's also mostly useful where the ISP is sufficiently large 
in a meaningful way for their on-net routes to make any 
sense to the downstream customer negotiating such an 

If you're an inbound-heavy shop, though, this won't
really buy you much benefit.  (And, if the revenue
point isn't in the $x millions/year for the transit
provider, they're more likely to just shrug and say
"too much hassle...please, go be a headache
for our competitor" rather than configuring a
dual relationship like that--so it really only works
for higher-volume relationships.)

Maybe what you meant to say is "if the revenue point isn't 
high enough" :-).

Relatively, different ISP's may be kings in their part of 
town, but still be small enough to accept fewer dollars for 
such a deal.

On the whole, I can envisage cases where trying to fix this 
"peering with customers" issue can end up causing 
inadvertent competition with exchange points.


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