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Re: Programmers with network engineering skills
From: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:04:57 -0800

John Mitchell wrote:
<rant>

I would wholeheartedly agree with this, but I believe its worse than

teaching process is one of learning to program like a monkey, monkey see monkey do. People are no longer taught to think for themselves, but instead taught to program in a specific language (PHP, Java, rarely C or C++ any more, C#, or VB) and that is all they know. I don't believe this is a failing with the lecturers but with the fundamental change in attitudes to programming.

The story of Mel comes to mind (one of my favourite):

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/R/Real-Programmer.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck ) since this gives people a chance to show they can program rather than being able to tell me "I know PHP" or "I know C", suprisingly very few newer programmers can

I think someone being able to quickly understand brainfuck and write usable code in it may be smart, but I don't think it's necessarily a sure sign of a potentially productive employee that "fits well in the team".

Greetings,
Jeroen

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